Tuesday, June 20, 2006
about discovery launch
Dear List Members,"NASA's second space shuttle flight since the Columbia tragedy will launch as planned on July 1 after two days of intense debate that included dissent from two senior officials. Source: http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/060617_sts121_launchdate.htmlHere are the launch date details: Time: 3:48:15 p.m. EDT (1948:15 GMT) Date: 1 July 2006Location: Florida, USA, Kennedy Space Center, Launch Pad 39BLongitude: 80 West 37' 16"Latitude: 28 North 37' 38"
Here are some interesting observations: - Libra Lagna - Lagna longitude very close to Jupiter in Libra (less than 2 degrees) - Jupiter is Maha Yogada - Jupiter in Rasi Lagna and Navamsa Lagna- Lagna lord is also 8th Lord (Venus) - Venus in own sign (Taurus) and Vargottama and in 8th house - 3 planets in 10th house (cancer) - Mercury, Saturn and debilitated Mars - 3 Raja Yogas in 10th house - Saturn is Yogakaraka (4th and 5th lord) and Vedic weekday lord - Lagna and 4 planets in the middle of the sign they occupy (15 or 16 degrees) Feel free to discuss about this launch date if it interests you so that we can all learn something from it. Thanks. Regards, Gary.
Excerpts from link referred.
CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. – NASA’s second space shuttle flight since the Columbia tragedy will launch as planned on July 1 after two days of intense debate that included dissent from two senior officials, the space agency said Saturday.
“There were many different viewpoints on the issue of whether we are ready to fly or not,” NASA chief Michael Griffin told reporters here at the Kennedy Space Center (KSC). “We’ve decided that we are.” Discovery will launch on July 1 at 3:48:15 p.m. EDT (1948:15 GMT).
Griffin said the decision came after two days of “intensive and spirited exchange” during a Flight Readiness Review for NASA’s STS-121 shuttle flight aboard the Discovery orbiter.
Two senior NASA managers – chief engineer Chris Scolese and Bryan O’Conner, the associate administrator of Safety and Mission Assurance – did have concerns over the potential risk of foam debris posed by a number of insulated ice frost ramps along Discovery’s external tank, NASA officials said.
About 34 foam-covered ice frost ramps line the shuttle fuel tank, insulating brackets that connect a cable tray and pressurization line.
“From their particular discipline, they felt they wanted their statement to be No-Go,” William Gerstenmaier, NASA’s associate administrator for space operations said. “But they do not object to us flying and they understand the reasons and the rationale that we laid out in the review for flight.”
That flight rationale, Griffin added, states that while foam debris damage – such as that which led to the loss of Columbia – could affect a shuttle’s availability to reenter the Earth’s atmosphere, the spacecraft’s astronaut crew could reach the orbit.
NASA’s ability to inspect the spacecraft in orbit, conduct rudimentary repairs, and even keep shuttle astronauts aboard the International Space Station (ISS) until a rescue shuttle or Russian Soyuz vehicle can be launched were all factors that contributed to the positive launch decision, Griffin said.
But the NASA chief also said that much is riding on Discovery’s flight and its safe return to Earth.
“Leaving aside the issue of crew, if we were to leave another vehicle…I would be moving to shut the program down,” Griffin said. “I think, at that point, we’re done.”
A critical spaceflight
Discovery’s STS-121 mission – commanded by veteran shuttle astronaut Steven Lindsey – is NASA’s final return to flight test to shuttle fuel tank changes, orbiter inspection and repair techniques, as well as deliver vital supplies to the ISS.
It’s been almost one year since NASA’s first post-Columbia accident mission, STS-114 also aboard Discovery, took flight. The STS-121 crew has filled that time with additional training while shuttle engineers developed new external tank foam modifications and subsequent tests to prevent large chunks from detaching during launch.
A one-pound (0.4-kilogram) piece of foam insulation fell from a protective ramp – since removed – from Discovery’s external tank during the STS-114 launch in July 2005. That chunk of launch debris did not strike Discovery, but a similar foam shedding event did occur during the Columbia orbiter’s 2003 launch, piercing the spacecraft’s heat shield and ultimately leading to its destruction and loss of seven astronauts.
The STS-121 crew will launch on a 12-day mission to the ISS, with two planned spacewalks – and a third if shuttle resources permit – on tap for their spaceflight.
The spaceflight will also deliver European Space Agency astronaut Thomas Reiter to the station to join the orbital outpost’s Expedition 13 crew.
Reiter will raise the ISS crew size back up to three astronauts for the first time since the Columbia accident, and is the first long-term ISS crewmember to be from a country other than the U.S. or Russia.
Dear Gary,
Nameste,
Incidentally I heard about launch of discovery on MSN and data is same they said 3 :39.
You have mentioned many of favorable features in the chart. It is nice to read.
But I have serious doubts about success of mission if launch takes place on date and time scheduled. Why?
A few pointers.
It is a mundane matter. Seven Chara karka scheme will apply. A cursory look will tell you that three char karaka elopement is in way causing delay dispute and disaster.
I have posted summary of my understanding already on sohamsa group. Here is why I look the way I described it. In the mean time one of my esteemed friend has also posted his analysis based on theory of yogi and Avyogi, that gives hope of safe projection and fulfillment we can review and wish all goes well and shuttle project is success.
Parashar in first two slokas of BHP says in chapter 34 “. Now I speak of Atman etc Karakas of Planets. There are 7 from Sun to Saturn OR 8 Karakas from The Sun to Rahu.. Some say that if there are equal degrees etc of the two planets Rahu should be considered as Karaka only then. In this way there are only 7 planets. But some say that there are eight planets including Rahu irrespective of such a state.
According to traditional teaching one-way of interpretation has been to take 7 char karaka and consider Rahu if two planets have equal longitudes. This is for non-living entitles. For Living entities 8 Chara karaka scheme is taken
In effect if two planets are in Grah yuddha (Same degree in Rasi ) there also one becomes winner and other is vanquished similarly while considering Char karka too if two planets fight for designation by falling in same degree one with higher longitudes elopes and give power to next one and a hole is created after some time governed by Natural age of Planets. Rahu fills this hole for non-living being and hole is filled by Sthir karka in living beings; provided sthir karka has strength in Natal chart.
Since space shuttle launching is a mundane matter we must understand some of the parameters before we apply the model,
SUN as per Jaimini is Karka for Birds and shuttle flies.. Scuttle carries people and payload so it is like an aircraft and Vahaan. So Venus steps in. Shuttle may go out in space for some time III house gains importance. Long journey Means IX house and Distant Stay XII becomes relevant. .Saturn also is important. Shuttle goes to dead space.
X house represents pilot Mr Steven W Lindsey( 24 August 1960 ARCADIA)
V HOUSE SHOWS crew and passengers.
The applicable part of module is here we shall use seven charkarka and Rahu will step in when two or more planets have the same charkarka (CK) longitude. When rahu steps in it can mean disaster.. If still another planet is in row transfer of control will occur and second slot will be taken over by Sthir karka. . In events Sun is a karka Rahu is inimical such single replacement spell disaster. Let us see here what is happening.
Here SUN is MK, Venus is PK And JUP is GK in same degree.
So Sun will be eclipsed by by Venus who shall become MK.The slot of PK becomes temporarily vacant which shall be filled by Rahu.This portends evil happening and requires scrutiny in detail. Karka SUN gives way to Venus Bird is taken over by Nasa( venus is PK) and vacant slot is filled by Rahu. Intelligence of Progenitors of Vehicle is now governed by Rahu. . Again there is Jupiter waiting in Queue who is BK like a guru , with heightened intelligence getting replaced by Sthir Karka Jup it self under next replacement.
I admit this is a unique case .It is a case of replacement / elopement of two CK planets much study is needed but at the best disaster may turn into manageable crisis’s after causing some looses. Again let us see a little more deeply.
Venus is in VIII house and lord of 64 th Navamsa. This is an indication that vehicle may be seriously impaired..
Luckily here in this case something disastrous is almost certain but saving grace is because V th and Tenth and their lords are not influenced by Graha dristi of Rahu seriously. Rahu does not have connection with AK Moon. But Venus is Kharesh so damage to vehicle may be a source of serious concern.
Lagna lord Venus is in VIII in own sign may result in partial failure of purpose of mission itself.
May god bless the mission and astronauts in particular? Naturally if launch is rescheduled these indication would not apply.
Let us Examine the other way . Posted by: "Bharat Hindu Astrology" hinduastrology@gmail.com bharateiya
Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:23 am (PST)
Namaskaar Sri GaryIn my view, since the Ascendant is in nakshatra of Yogi, there isn't apossibility of a disaster. Secondly, Jupiter too is in the nakshatra of Yogi- Rahu. Rahu is in the 6th house connecting Jupiter to its own sign. This islike a vipreet raja yoga helped by Rahu.Venus, the lagna lord in the 8th is under Sarala Yoga. Longevity isprotected.Mars, the killing planet, is in the 10th and in Debilitation in the nakshtraof 9th Lord Mercury. Saturn and Mercury are in Yoga and in the 10th, in thenakshatra of duplicate yogi- Saturn.Avayogi Venus is also the lagna lord. This makes me think that there couldbe repairs etc, needed on the Space Shuttle and doubts will continue in theminds of all.Thanks and RegardsBharat
My esteemed friend has observed as above .I wish it comes true. Here I find that
Moon in Dagdh Signs.and Avyagi nakshtra. Placement of Venus in VIII house is not favoured.
Here are some interesting observations: - Libra Lagna - Lagna longitude very close to Jupiter in Libra (less than 2 degrees) - Jupiter is Maha Yogada - Jupiter in Rasi Lagna and Navamsa Lagna- Lagna lord is also 8th Lord (Venus) - Venus in own sign (Taurus) and Vargottama and in 8th house - 3 planets in 10th house (cancer) - Mercury, Saturn and debilitated Mars - 3 Raja Yogas in 10th house - Saturn is Yogakaraka (4th and 5th lord) and Vedic weekday lord - Lagna and 4 planets in the middle of the sign they occupy (15 or 16 degrees) Feel free to discuss about this launch date if it interests you so that we can all learn something from it. Thanks. Regards, Gary.
Excerpts from link referred.
CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. – NASA’s second space shuttle flight since the Columbia tragedy will launch as planned on July 1 after two days of intense debate that included dissent from two senior officials, the space agency said Saturday.
“There were many different viewpoints on the issue of whether we are ready to fly or not,” NASA chief Michael Griffin told reporters here at the Kennedy Space Center (KSC). “We’ve decided that we are.” Discovery will launch on July 1 at 3:48:15 p.m. EDT (1948:15 GMT).
Griffin said the decision came after two days of “intensive and spirited exchange” during a Flight Readiness Review for NASA’s STS-121 shuttle flight aboard the Discovery orbiter.
Two senior NASA managers – chief engineer Chris Scolese and Bryan O’Conner, the associate administrator of Safety and Mission Assurance – did have concerns over the potential risk of foam debris posed by a number of insulated ice frost ramps along Discovery’s external tank, NASA officials said.
About 34 foam-covered ice frost ramps line the shuttle fuel tank, insulating brackets that connect a cable tray and pressurization line.
“From their particular discipline, they felt they wanted their statement to be No-Go,” William Gerstenmaier, NASA’s associate administrator for space operations said. “But they do not object to us flying and they understand the reasons and the rationale that we laid out in the review for flight.”
That flight rationale, Griffin added, states that while foam debris damage – such as that which led to the loss of Columbia – could affect a shuttle’s availability to reenter the Earth’s atmosphere, the spacecraft’s astronaut crew could reach the orbit.
NASA’s ability to inspect the spacecraft in orbit, conduct rudimentary repairs, and even keep shuttle astronauts aboard the International Space Station (ISS) until a rescue shuttle or Russian Soyuz vehicle can be launched were all factors that contributed to the positive launch decision, Griffin said.
But the NASA chief also said that much is riding on Discovery’s flight and its safe return to Earth.
“Leaving aside the issue of crew, if we were to leave another vehicle…I would be moving to shut the program down,” Griffin said. “I think, at that point, we’re done.”
A critical spaceflight
Discovery’s STS-121 mission – commanded by veteran shuttle astronaut Steven Lindsey – is NASA’s final return to flight test to shuttle fuel tank changes, orbiter inspection and repair techniques, as well as deliver vital supplies to the ISS.
It’s been almost one year since NASA’s first post-Columbia accident mission, STS-114 also aboard Discovery, took flight. The STS-121 crew has filled that time with additional training while shuttle engineers developed new external tank foam modifications and subsequent tests to prevent large chunks from detaching during launch.
A one-pound (0.4-kilogram) piece of foam insulation fell from a protective ramp – since removed – from Discovery’s external tank during the STS-114 launch in July 2005. That chunk of launch debris did not strike Discovery, but a similar foam shedding event did occur during the Columbia orbiter’s 2003 launch, piercing the spacecraft’s heat shield and ultimately leading to its destruction and loss of seven astronauts.
The STS-121 crew will launch on a 12-day mission to the ISS, with two planned spacewalks – and a third if shuttle resources permit – on tap for their spaceflight.
The spaceflight will also deliver European Space Agency astronaut Thomas Reiter to the station to join the orbital outpost’s Expedition 13 crew.
Reiter will raise the ISS crew size back up to three astronauts for the first time since the Columbia accident, and is the first long-term ISS crewmember to be from a country other than the U.S. or Russia.
Dear Gary,
Nameste,
Incidentally I heard about launch of discovery on MSN and data is same they said 3 :39.
You have mentioned many of favorable features in the chart. It is nice to read.
But I have serious doubts about success of mission if launch takes place on date and time scheduled. Why?
A few pointers.
It is a mundane matter. Seven Chara karka scheme will apply. A cursory look will tell you that three char karaka elopement is in way causing delay dispute and disaster.
I have posted summary of my understanding already on sohamsa group. Here is why I look the way I described it. In the mean time one of my esteemed friend has also posted his analysis based on theory of yogi and Avyogi, that gives hope of safe projection and fulfillment we can review and wish all goes well and shuttle project is success.
Parashar in first two slokas of BHP says in chapter 34 “. Now I speak of Atman etc Karakas of Planets. There are 7 from Sun to Saturn OR 8 Karakas from The Sun to Rahu.. Some say that if there are equal degrees etc of the two planets Rahu should be considered as Karaka only then. In this way there are only 7 planets. But some say that there are eight planets including Rahu irrespective of such a state.
According to traditional teaching one-way of interpretation has been to take 7 char karaka and consider Rahu if two planets have equal longitudes. This is for non-living entitles. For Living entities 8 Chara karaka scheme is taken
In effect if two planets are in Grah yuddha (Same degree in Rasi ) there also one becomes winner and other is vanquished similarly while considering Char karka too if two planets fight for designation by falling in same degree one with higher longitudes elopes and give power to next one and a hole is created after some time governed by Natural age of Planets. Rahu fills this hole for non-living being and hole is filled by Sthir karka in living beings; provided sthir karka has strength in Natal chart.
Since space shuttle launching is a mundane matter we must understand some of the parameters before we apply the model,
SUN as per Jaimini is Karka for Birds and shuttle flies.. Scuttle carries people and payload so it is like an aircraft and Vahaan. So Venus steps in. Shuttle may go out in space for some time III house gains importance. Long journey Means IX house and Distant Stay XII becomes relevant. .Saturn also is important. Shuttle goes to dead space.
X house represents pilot Mr Steven W Lindsey( 24 August 1960 ARCADIA)
V HOUSE SHOWS crew and passengers.
The applicable part of module is here we shall use seven charkarka and Rahu will step in when two or more planets have the same charkarka (CK) longitude. When rahu steps in it can mean disaster.. If still another planet is in row transfer of control will occur and second slot will be taken over by Sthir karka. . In events Sun is a karka Rahu is inimical such single replacement spell disaster. Let us see here what is happening.
Here SUN is MK, Venus is PK And JUP is GK in same degree.
So Sun will be eclipsed by by Venus who shall become MK.The slot of PK becomes temporarily vacant which shall be filled by Rahu.This portends evil happening and requires scrutiny in detail. Karka SUN gives way to Venus Bird is taken over by Nasa( venus is PK) and vacant slot is filled by Rahu. Intelligence of Progenitors of Vehicle is now governed by Rahu. . Again there is Jupiter waiting in Queue who is BK like a guru , with heightened intelligence getting replaced by Sthir Karka Jup it self under next replacement.
I admit this is a unique case .It is a case of replacement / elopement of two CK planets much study is needed but at the best disaster may turn into manageable crisis’s after causing some looses. Again let us see a little more deeply.
Venus is in VIII house and lord of 64 th Navamsa. This is an indication that vehicle may be seriously impaired..
Luckily here in this case something disastrous is almost certain but saving grace is because V th and Tenth and their lords are not influenced by Graha dristi of Rahu seriously. Rahu does not have connection with AK Moon. But Venus is Kharesh so damage to vehicle may be a source of serious concern.
Lagna lord Venus is in VIII in own sign may result in partial failure of purpose of mission itself.
May god bless the mission and astronauts in particular? Naturally if launch is rescheduled these indication would not apply.
Let us Examine the other way . Posted by: "Bharat Hindu Astrology" hinduastrology@gmail.com bharateiya
Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:23 am (PST)
Namaskaar Sri GaryIn my view, since the Ascendant is in nakshatra of Yogi, there isn't apossibility of a disaster. Secondly, Jupiter too is in the nakshatra of Yogi- Rahu. Rahu is in the 6th house connecting Jupiter to its own sign. This islike a vipreet raja yoga helped by Rahu.Venus, the lagna lord in the 8th is under Sarala Yoga. Longevity isprotected.Mars, the killing planet, is in the 10th and in Debilitation in the nakshtraof 9th Lord Mercury. Saturn and Mercury are in Yoga and in the 10th, in thenakshatra of duplicate yogi- Saturn.Avayogi Venus is also the lagna lord. This makes me think that there couldbe repairs etc, needed on the Space Shuttle and doubts will continue in theminds of all.Thanks and RegardsBharat
My esteemed friend has observed as above .I wish it comes true. Here I find that
Moon in Dagdh Signs.and Avyagi nakshtra. Placement of Venus in VIII house is not favoured.
